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mgl_ALPerryman
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Re: Work units I did not sign up for.

Hi snoekie,

Although my personal experiences only reflect a sample size of 1, I have not encountered the problem that you described. When I created my WCG account a couple months ago, I only selected the FightAIDSatHome option. Although I do think that the other projects on the WCG should be supported, I chose to only run FAAH calculations, because it helps me keep track of the progress of the experiments I am performing on FAAH.

After creating my initial account and modifying that checklist of different projects, no changes have ever been made to my preferences. A few months ago I chose to only run FAAH calculations on my home computer, and all of the work units on my Mac have been from FightAIDS@Home.

My $0.02,
Dr. Alex Perryman
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Re: Work units I did not sign up for.

Look again, Dr Perryman - all members are opted in to new projects.

You just haven't got work from the new project because the Mac version was delayed. I hear it is currently in beta, so deselect Help Conquer Cancer now if you wish to avoid getting work units when the Mac version is ready.
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smile Re: Work units I did not sign up for.

I find it hard to believe that FA@H is running out of units.


Hi zanderqin,

Your belief is completely correct. It will take the WCG a few years to complete the experiments I am currently planning for FA@H. In fact, I have to trim down some of my plans in order for those projects to be feasible, even with the tremendous resources that you all provide us.

If/when we are eventually able to completely defeat HIV protease (that is, to design enough flavors of the different classes of HIV protease inhibitors, such that HIV is no longer able to mutate the protease enzyme into a form that can evade all of the different drugs while still being able to efficiently perform its biological function for the virus), then we will start to focus our efforts on the other drug targets from HIV. I expect it to take several (to many) years before we figure out how to completely defeat HIV protease. But I'm working on it, and I do have hope that we can eventually figure out how to corner HIV protease in sequence space.
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Re: Work units I did not sign up for.

Look again, Dr Perryman - all members are opted in to new projects.

You just haven't got work from the new project because the Mac version was delayed. I hear it is currently in beta, so deselect Help Conquer Cancer now if you wish to avoid getting work units when the Mac version is ready.



Hi Didactylos,

I stand corrected. I just clicked on the "MY GRID" tab and then selected the "My projects" link, and the HCC project had been added. I un-checked the box for HCC, and now FA@H is the only project that will run on my home computer.

Although HCC was added to my preferences automatically, it was very easy to change them back.

Thanks for the tip,
Dr. Alex Perryman
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Re: Work units I did not sign up for.

Now I am protesting, and strongly.

I deselected cancer and had only aids ticked.

The new unit is cancer.

I looked at the profile, and the system had added a tick cancer.

Either we have a choice or not. You are foisting unwanted work on me, so clearly there must be more profit in it for you for my machine to work on cancer, or have I got the wrong end of the stick? It is after all my machine and my electricity, ergo, my choice, nicht waar?


snoekie,

Can you confirm that after following Didactylos instructions from above that new workunits sent to you are only from projects you have selected?

Also - please don't read anything into a bug like this. We get no profit from any of the projects and if you continue to have problems removing a project from your profile, it is only do to a bug accidentally added by us (us being the WCG techs - not the project researchers). It is not an attempt to remove your ability to choose which projects you run.

thanks,
Kevin
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Re: Work units I did not sign up for.

Your belief is completely correct. It will take the WCG a few years to complete the experiments I am currently planning for FA@H. In fact, I have to trim down some of my plans in order for those projects to be feasible, even with the tremendous resources that you all provide us.
As soon as some users get their new and faster computers for Christmas, they will have faster systems to throw at it. Intel straps more and more chips together, and AMD's true quad core will be out any time now. I only see a problem if WCG runs more and more projects simultaneously, and FA@H becomes a smaller piece of the pie.

It is good news in a way that FA@H still has multiyear crunching available. It has been a popular project. The results may not be available quickly, but the members are always free to drag in other new ones to help us finish sooner.

Since these projects are supported in a big way by IBM, they would probably encourage more crunching by their employees if we need it. We already have many regional IBM teams here.
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Re: Work units I did not sign up for.

Unfortunatly this is a problem most distributed computing projects that run multiple sub projects... its there choice of auto op-in vs auto op-out

personaly i would love if they had a selection to be able to select op-in or opt out on new projects...

actualy right now i am runnin on Boinc and i have many other projects... but i am also up-in my share of my computers to WCG cause i think they curently have alot of good projects that i am intrested in

personaly i would prefer op-in but i know and understand the reason people would prefer op-out.

also remember yes there will probably be a long time before any of the projects truly run out of work units.. but sometimes there will be delays in one project or another do to them trying to get all the results in from wave 1 before starting the next wave of work units ... or they may be trying to get the results so they can sharpen the focus of the project and become a much better program for the next step.

personaly i hope that they find a cure for Aids and many of the cancers so we can then refocu the serch power to more diseases

lets hope we can cure the disease you are trying to get a cure for and then you all decide to stay on for more projects afterwords


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Re: Work units I did not sign up for.

Hello nasher,
its there choice of auto op-in vs auto op-out

When WCG added a second project (FAAH) in 2005, the decision was made to automatically opt in all members when a new project was added. People who watch the projects will notice this and can manually decide to opt out. African Climate At Home was an exception. Because of the commo requirements, members have to manually opt in.

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