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BOINC Client won't give me the processing speed comparison of my PC

On my Desktop, there was a different version of a grid client that I cannot find on this site now (because I downloaded it so long ago, so that old version is probably gone). The Desktop's client showed me processor comparison speeds. It said a typical high-end PC's speed was "100" and my desktop, compared to that, was variable, ranging from 135 to as high as 167.

But when I downloaded the grid client onto my new laptop a week ago, this new grid client seemed to be a slightly watered-down version of the one I had on my desktop. This version does not show me the processor comparison speeds and I really wanted to see how my new laptop compared to my old desktop.

Now that I can't, can someone point me to a download link of my desktop's client so I can download its version? Or better yet, can the devs put in a processor comparison speed reading on this new version? Thanks.
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Re: BOINC Client won't give me the processing speed comparison of my PC

Hello Egao No Genki,
Cpu-Z ( http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/CPU-Z.shtml ) is the most commonly used program for determining your processor speed. I don't know of a site that lets you see other CPU speeds, but maybe a Google query will find one.

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Re: BOINC Client won't give me the processing speed comparison of my PC

Sounds like Egau is referencing the old UD client system rating......that would be useless now anyway cos the max was 300, and my lil XP2500 o/c'd made 251 laughing .......so the new processors would not have a meaningful rating.

Egau, what cpu you got and what speed is it running?
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Re: BOINC Client won't give me the processing speed comparison of my PC

Egao, what cpu you got and what speed is it running?


It's a Core2Duo processor, at 2.2 GHz. Dual-core effectively makes it 4.4. There are 4 GBs of RAM, but only 3.-something is usable because Vista Home Premium isn't a 64-bit operating system.

By the way, now that I know the usable RAM limit on a 32-bit system, what is the RAM limit on a 64-bit?
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Re: BOINC Client won't give me the processing speed comparison of my PC

what is the RAM limit on a 64-bit?

The limit is more petabytes than you can cram into a computer. The effective limits switch over to things like processes and threads. It will be a while before the OS kernels are expanded to make effective use of potential memory.

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From Wikipedia:

The primary benefit of moving to 64-bit is the increase in the maximum allocatable system memory (RAM). Windows XP 32-bit is limited to a total of 4 GB, which is, by default, equally divided between Kernel and application usage. Using the /3GB switch in the boot.ini file forces Windows to limit the kernel to the upper 1GB and provides up to 3GB for applications. Windows XP x64 can support much more memory; although the theoretical memory limit a 64-bit computer can address is about 16 exabytes (16 billion gigabytes), Windows XP x64 is currently limited to 128 GB of physical memory and 16 TB of virtual memory. Microsoft claims this limit will be increased as hardware capabilities improve. In practice, most motherboards compatible with 64-bit processors do not support anywhere close to the maximum limit, and often retain the 4 GB limit, though motherboards capable of 8GB are becoming more common.


Desktop motherboards only have 4 RAM slots and the largest RAM modules available are 2GB so the practical limit as of now is 8GB. That is, unless you spend large amounts of $$$ on server hardware.
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Re: BOINC Client won't give me the processing speed comparison of my PC

On my Desktop, there was a different version of a grid client that I cannot find on this site now (because I downloaded it so long ago, so that old version is probably gone). The Desktop's client showed me processor comparison speeds. It said a typical high-end PC's speed was "100" and my desktop, compared to that, was variable, ranging from 135 to as high as 167.

But when I downloaded the grid client onto my new laptop a week ago, this new grid client seemed to be a slightly watered-down version of the one I had on my desktop. This version does not show me the processor comparison speeds and I really wanted to see how my new laptop compared to my old desktop.

Now that I can't, can someone point me to a download link of my desktop's client so I can download its version? Or better yet, can the devs put in a processor comparison speed reading on this new version? Thanks.

Get it while you can, but use it *only to test* http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/bg/WorldCommunityGridAgent.exe
.... my C2D only gives 186 using UD Device test, so there is room before the 300 barrier is hit. Somewhere in the Help there is an explanation and also in the Start Here forum is an explanation of the weight of each element (posted by David Autumns).

The device rating / benchmark for BOINC are run every 5 days and measured in Dhrystone and Whetstone (INTEGERS and FLOPS). You can see the values in the Message Log. It does not take any other hardware features into account. You can force a benchmark by visiting the advanced view, advanced menu. There are posts around the forum of what some members have on their different CPUs. Just sum the 2 values and divide by 480. This will give the approximate hourly BOINC *claimed* credit.
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Re: BOINC Client won't give me the processing speed comparison of my PC

Not to get off subject but the Wiki says on 32-bit systems "Using the /3GB switch in the boot.ini file forces Windows to limit the kernel to the upper 1GB and provides up to 3GB for applications."

Has anyone ever tried this and if so, does it help? I'm maxxed at 4GB but didn't know switches could be used to help RAM be more efficient (I suppose). And where in the .ini file does the switch go? I wnet to MSCONFIG and then to Advanced Options and at the top I see a checkbox with /MAXMEM= with and empty box to enter info next to it. Could that be it? Just curious.

Unless by default of you have 4GB and it automatically uses RAM that way.

And the max RAM allowed for 64-bit is just insane...seeeesh that would be expe$ive.


From Wikipedia:

The primary benefit of moving to 64-bit is the increase in the maximum allocatable system memory (RAM). Windows XP 32-bit is limited to a total of 4 GB, which is, by default, equally divided between Kernel and application usage. Using the /3GB switch in the boot.ini file forces Windows to limit the kernel to the upper 1GB and provides up to 3GB for applications. Windows XP x64 can support much more memory; although the theoretical memory limit a 64-bit computer can address is about 16 exabytes (16 billion gigabytes), Windows XP x64 is currently limited to 128 GB of physical memory and 16 TB of virtual memory. Microsoft claims this limit will be increased as hardware capabilities improve. In practice, most motherboards compatible with 64-bit processors do not support anywhere close to the maximum limit, and often retain the 4 GB limit, though motherboards capable of 8GB are becoming more common.


Desktop motherboards only have 4 RAM slots and the largest RAM modules available are 2GB so the practical limit as of now is 8GB. That is, unless you spend large amounts of $$$ on server hardware.

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Re: BOINC Client won't give me the processing speed comparison of my PC

It's a custom here to go off-topic and with absent ability to split threads or move it will continue.

On the /3GB switch, it would go on the boot.ini line reading like below sample:

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Media Center Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

Whether with 4GB you should use that or the /PAE switch under WinXP I don't know, yet. This article explains a little: http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2004/08/05/208908.aspx

Added: Here's a MS article explaining all the switches:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/833721
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