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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
My personal feeling is that if I found a project taking about a week per work unit on a computer, I would decide that it was intended for faster computers and I would select a project with shorter work units, like Genome Comparison.
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Former Member
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Yeah after checking on it again this morning, over 30 hours and only 56% complete, I changed the profile for that machine for FAAH and GC. My slowest machine is only one of two computers I have left on the UD agent, and the other is my Mother-In-Laws laptop, so it runs on about 50% throttle to keep it cool. I guess until HCMD phase 2 comes out on boinc, I'll be working other projects. Any idea when that would be?
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Former Member
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Hi joneill003,
As far as I know, the plan is still 'Early estimates are that Phase 2 may start around August of 2007' as stated in http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=10647 There has already been one change with the decision to run many more test proteins in Phase 1. The remaining proteins tend to be much larger than the earlier ones (at least, they take much longer to run). I would not be surprised if Phase 2 was delayed a bit to change the code, but I only know what I see here. Lawrence |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
The French language newsletter never mentioned anything earlier as September.... if 4 months prepping is needed to analyze the data after closing Phase I and that's not expected to finish until early July, count on fingers, it will be well after the return from the trip south on Route du Soleil. Of course, we can crunch the heck out of it and make the current stage complete quicker. But for now my bet is pre-X-Mas time same as the first pass, unless the prepping has already started on partial data set results.
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scleranthus
Cruncher FRANCE Joined: Feb 8, 2005 Post Count: 13 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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hi everybody,
just to let know everybody that there are truly long works units coming. It had been warned that coming to the end of the project some of the units would be very long in calculation, not all of them. Indeed some units would crunch normally (about 14h on my slowest computer P4 2.8 mhz), but others have taken over 75 hours on my fastest computer. I don't see why it should be a problem for a work unit to be long to complete, even more when there is no way to make them smaller. Results are still needed ... Time out is long enough to still complete the units. It would be a subject for concern if most units would fail but then I'm sure worldcommunity would know before any of us crunchers. The reactions about long work units make me think that a central project with difficult crunching might get difficulty to be achieved just because people want units to be fast probably making them think reasearch go as fast as their units. I think recurent timeout should really be the only reason for desactivating a project apart for personnal choices of course. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I think recurent timeout should really be the only reason for desactivating a project apart for personnal choices of course. Yeah I understand exactly what you mean. I am not so worried about timeout, that machine has been pretty solid, but I think this particular machine (1.2GHz Celeron) is able to handle the FAAH and GC units a little easier. It's old and fragile, and I don't want to overwhelm it I figure those powerhouses out there can crunch those out with a lot more ease than mine. When HCMD comes out on boinc I'll be looking forward to having my machines crunch those out. |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
steve davol wrote:
----------------------------------------My current work, Help Cure MD, is going nowhere. For three days, the progress has been steady at 0.2%. I don't see that anyone else has reported a similar problem in the forums. [May 26, 2007 3:55:05 PM] Thanks for the link. I had searched for something like that to no avail. I will be happy to take this conversation to the proper place, but alas I know not how. In answer to the question though: I do shut down the PC every evening around 2200 CDT and restart it the next morning at 0530. Thus it runs some 16+ hours a day. If indeed this is the norm for this project, fine. I'm not looking for points, but I don't want something taking up CPU capacity if nothing is happening. [May 26, 2007 4:31:33 PM] The latter part of HCMD is very tough. It's going to take about 40% of the projects total CPU time estimate to do about 10% of the remainder of the project. On very slow CPU's reaching the first checkpoint which will be reflected in a jump from 0.2% to about 4-5%, can take many hours... after that you should see regular progress. Each time you shut down the PC and not reaching the first checkpoint will in effect restart the work unit the next day. Hibernation (not stand-by), would preserve the memory state. Given you got nowhere, propose to first change your 'My Projects' profile to do a few short Genome Comparison, to test the speed (What is the CPU speed?). Once you changed the profile, go to Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Del keys simultaneous), select the Process tab and find the wcgridHCMD.exe process. Terminate that and it should send the interrupted result back and get a GC job. Added: Getting worse: now it's 30% for the remaining 3%: ![]()
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Thanks for the information. And thanks for moving the discussion here. I suppose I should be smart enough to have done this.
Before I give up on the HCMD, I think I will leave the computer on for a couple of days to see if we can get over the hump. The CPU is a 1Ghz, fast in its day, but slow for today's machines. Does every checkpoint in HCMD take this much time? If so, I suppose that just getting over the hump and then going back to my regular schedule will not be of much benefit. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Hello steve davol,
The initial test of HCMD showed that they were going to have to rewrite Phase 2 a lot more than they had hoped, so they extended Phase 1 by adding on some much larger proteins to get all the data they needed for the Phase 2 programming. So HCMD now takes a lot of time. Safer not to run it on a 1.2 Ghz Celeron. Lawrence |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Just an observation: I currently have two work units in progress that have reached approximately 60% after 44 hours and 48 hours respectively. Admittedly they are running on fairly slow machines (600MHz) but I think these are the longest times I seen on this project. David. I had a issue with long work units on my 1 Ghz box swithched to just Genome Comparasion and saw my results total get a big boost. my more powerful rig takes on HCMD when it is available.. I read in other forums that the project is nearly completion. last work units are out in the field now so that leaves 3 projects left to work on.. hope a new cancer projects ramps up soon.. |
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