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Former Member
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To me, WCG is one of the most beneficial projects around. But I would like some changes, without explaining too much, why I want them, I think most do know why
---------------------------------------- 1. Make "My Grid"-website more BOINC-like, like all the other BOINC-project websites. To me "My Grid" is confusing/unclear! 2. Linux credit system compared to Windows credits system is unfair! (Ok, thats hearsay, but if you hear dozens of linux users saying the same... 3. Is it really necessary to distribute the same workunit to up to 20 hosts??? (Workunits starting with "la") To me thats waste of energy, time, cpu cycles... 4. More detailed workunit statistics (referring to #1: More BOINC-like!) Dont get me wrong, I'm completely Pro-WCG! I have 25 projects running, WCG gets 1/8th in average, and I tend to increase its share. Best regards! (Comments welcome!) [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Mar 17, 2007 1:49:16 AM] |
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Former Member
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Hail to the ruler of Arrakis!
3. Is it really necessary to distribute the same workunit to up to 20 hosts??? (Workunits starting with "la") To me thats waste of energy, time, cpu cycles... Each of the HPF2 work units is computed with a random number supplying one of the parameters. In other words, instead of 20 duplicates, each result is unique. The validation function is very complex and (I believe) works in a statistical fashion. So - - there is NO duplication in HPF2. This is the only project that WCG runs without duplication. 2. Linux credit system compared to Windows credits system is unfair! (Ok, thats hearsay, but if you hear dozens of linux users saying the same... This is being worked on. The problem is that Windows compilers cheat when compiling benchmarks. The compiler writers competed with each other back in the 1990's by eliminating code that does not produce a result, which speeds up the benchmarks substantially. Lawrence |
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Former Member
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3. Is it really necessary to distribute the same workunit to up to 20 hosts??? (Workunits starting with "la") To me thats waste of energy, time, cpu cycles... Each of the HPF2 work units is computed with a random number supplying one of the parameters. In other words, instead of 20 duplicates, each result is unique. The validation function is very complex and (I believe) works in a statistical fashion. So - - there is NO duplication in HPF2. This is the only project that WCG runs without duplication. Thanx for explaining it! That makes sense to me! Hail to the ruler of Arrakis!  |
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Former Member
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the only comment that i have is that all work units should be small. the work units should only take up 1 and a half to 2 hours of processing time to complete. that way it is less of a hit to the project when a unit is lost. i'm sure that this isn't always possible but if it is possible to do it could increase the productivity of that project.
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retsof
Former Community Advisor USA Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Post Count: 6824 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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It's a trade-off. Small workunits cause a larger load on the servers, since there is more time needed for transmittals and more ports needed.
----------------------------------------My dial-up systems take a couple of hours per day to send up and download 1 hour genome comparison workunits (when they are available). They should finish in one hour, but because of the problem, one was at 0% after 14 hours. (evening and overnight) The longer running 5 hour FAAH have tiny files, so transmittals run quickly. (Workunit times are on these AMD64 2.4GHz computers)
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To me, WCG is one of the most beneficial projects around. But I would like some changes, without explaining too much, why I want them, I think most do know why 1. Make "My Grid"-website more BOINC-like, like all the other BOINC-project websites. To me "My Grid" is confusing/unclear! You have to remember that this is not an exclusive Boinc project, it caters for users of the Grid UD Agent as well. To be honest I actually prefer the layout here, and find the others more unclear!  |
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