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UD.exe as a service + firewall ?

Hi all,

I'm not sure whether I should post this on the WCG forum or on the forum of my firewall. I'll just start here (and run if a flame war starts smile ).

Relevant system characteristics:
Windows XP Home edition SP2
Sygate Personal Firewall Pro 5.5.2710
Dialup connection

I've followed the instructions on http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=217#1190 to run UD.exe as a service. That's running smoothly. However, when it's time to connect to the grid server, my firewall blocks the connection! This happens despite the fact that I've created a so-called “Advanced Rule” that allows any connection to the grid server (IP 129.33.89.134) by any application. If, alternatively, I stop the UD.exe service and start the WCG agent from the Start menu, Sygate allows the connection. In Sygate's traffic log, both the allowed connections' log entries and the blocked connections' log entries refer to the (same) Advanced Rule.

This happens when I'm logged on and connected. (When I'm not connected, there's nothing for the firewall to block [duh], and when I'm not logged on, I'm not connected anyway [duh]).

Am I missing something obvious? Or is it a Sygate bug? Does anybody have the the combination of UD.exe-as-a-service and SPF Pro working? Any comments are greatly appreciated.

Thanks and kind regards
Fred
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Re: UD.exe as a service + firewall ?I stop the UD.exe service and start the WCG agent from the Start menu, Sygate allows the connection

blushing I [we] use Zonealarm [not Sygate] and have a router Firewall to-boot and ....I get this and worse restart ERRORZ w/ UD.exe on my REMOVABLE Drv., BUT my wifes' [USERid/install] 'install on the C: drv. never gets ANY errorz.! WTF! I have posted this B4....
BTW: I have a spare Linux machine to 'Heat up this cold house.....
And... DARN... out of time to post or I'll loose it
! crying

ps ALL fillez are on my
flash drv and runs great until switchin' UserIDZ....
pss: Dial Up is the most pain/minutes that ya'll gotta live with. Keep-on-Computin' [or (60's) Truckin' cool
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rose Clever

"I stop the UD.exe service and start the WCG agent from the Start menu, Sygate allows the connection "

That is a clever work around. [Grin] I think that you should report your problem to a user's group for Sygate to see if anyone can come up with a labor-free solution. Not everyone has your patience.

Have you ever run into Homebuilt CPUs WebRing at http://www.homebrewcpu.com/ ? Once the 4 GB flash memory chips mentioned here http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20253 become available, this will go mainstream but right now flash drives are still an enthusiast’s topic, such as this article on Linux on a 256 MB flash drive at http://arstechnica.com/columns/linux/linux-20041109.ars
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Re: UD.exe as a service + firewall ?

There is a feature in Sygate that blocks attacking IP addresses, and WCG has been doing some port scanning. So I think that's what has triggered Sygate to block the WCG.
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Re: UD.exe as a service + firewall ?

@ lawrencehardin:
That is a clever work around. [Grin]

smile Of course, I don't use this procedure as a workaround. The difference in Sygate's behaviour seemed relevant enough to mention.

@ koorb:
There is a feature in Sygate that blocks attacking IP addresses, and WCG has been doing some port scanning. So I think that's what has triggered Sygate to block the WCG.


This is not the cause. The "scanning IPs" (currently 129.33.82.49-53 in my logs) are not the same as the grid server (129.33.89.134). Besides, Sygate should behave the same regardless of how UD.exe is run (as a service or as a "normal" app): either it should be blocked at all times or permitted at all times, but it shouldn´t be different when UD.exe is run as a service.


Meanwhile, I have contacted Sygate support and they've asked me to send them some log files. I'll do that as soon as I´m able to replicate the problem, i.e. when I finish my current WU.

As soon as I´ve got anything worth mentioning, I´ll post it here. Thanks for thinking along!
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Re: UD.exe as a service + firewall ?

Hi Fred,
Please do post what you find out from Sygate, as I've been having this same problem.

Matthew
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Re: UD.exe as a service + firewall ?

Finally, there's news!

It took some time, but at least it's fixed now. Sygate has released a debugging build (3311), and I have been able to confirm that this build indeed solves the problem.

Anyone interested can download this build from the following location:
http://207.33.111.31/pspf/Debug_Build/

(Sygate allowed me to post the link here).

NOTE: I don't know if my memory is accurate (can't remember that smile ), but I think all your application permissions will be LOST if you uninstall SPF. I didn't have this problem, because I only use Advanced rules. You can select your Advanced rules, right-click and then save them. In a newly installed version, you can open the Advanced rules and then import the old Advanced rules.


Good luck,
Fred
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Re: UD.exe as a service + firewall ?

Thanks to The Fred.

A link to this post has been added to 'Problems with Anti-Virus and Firewall Programs' at http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=1804
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